tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post1807622325150949552..comments2023-11-03T03:52:37.873-05:00Comments on Cognitive Dissidence: Let Him Speak! Somebody DO Something!http://www.blogger.com/profile/08717747685928127724noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-38096946605940935932014-06-06T12:10:58.426-05:002014-06-06T12:10:58.426-05:00I agree entirely with the last two posters. The on...I agree entirely with the last two posters. The only way an NPD type like Hulsey is paid attention to is if the DPW makes him out to be martyr. Let him say his piece and he'll fade away.<br /><br /> This is silly stuff that no one outside of a few Dem Party insiders really cares about. Fight a bigger battle, like against the destructive garbage that WisGOP has put upon this stateJake formerly of the LPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15660401299391001751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-9261597818581639192014-06-06T09:28:09.974-05:002014-06-06T09:28:09.974-05:00If Hulsey is not allowed to speak and gets enough ...If Hulsey is not allowed to speak and gets enough signatures to make the ballot, he will be able to play the victim card, attacking the party leadership for suppressing free speech at the convention. You can bet that the righty radio blowhards and bloggers will give him lots of time to expound on the conspiracy. <br /><br />I know that people in the Capitol carry grudges for all sorts of reasons but the convention is not the stage to play them out on. Frankly it strikes me as childish.Garethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-67171378179129683642014-06-06T07:33:14.564-05:002014-06-06T07:33:14.564-05:00If Hulsey gets the signatures needed let him speak...If Hulsey gets the signatures needed let him speak, if he doesn't, then don't. The fact is we need to set an example on the Democratic side, that your voice will be heard and not fall into the false equivalency of both parties are the same.<br /><br />IF he does get the signatures and makes some good points, MAYBE that is what his goal is, and hopefully Mary will listen and move toward those ideas IF she is not already there.<br /><br />Hopefully then Hulsey will bow out as to not split the vote, and prove he is really standing with the Democratic party. I see a lot of possible Redemption, if the convention is done right, and set an example of what Democracy looks like!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-68469561080983014792014-06-05T20:17:21.951-05:002014-06-05T20:17:21.951-05:00Omg. Would you listen to yourselves?
This discussi...Omg. Would you listen to yourselves?<br />This discussion is worse than listening to two old men on a park bench. <br />Oh wait...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-61573197972765366332014-06-05T18:53:19.781-05:002014-06-05T18:53:19.781-05:00If PETER BARCA is saying that Brett Hulsey was gon...If PETER BARCA is saying that Brett Hulsey was gonna book the party and it is BRETT HULSEY that is saying that Peter Barca is the source for the story, then embrassing Brett Hulsey divides -- but you do nothing but undermine the party anyhow.<br /><br />Without walker's divide and conquer, you have no blog -- just like to stir up the sh!t and watch the chaos, don't you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-34192596333437004242014-06-05T18:37:50.881-05:002014-06-05T18:37:50.881-05:00The party leadership has been saying for months if...The party leadership has been saying for months if someone else decides to run they would welcome them. Its not me dividing the party. <br />Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-71444273122366409122014-06-05T18:17:22.984-05:002014-06-05T18:17:22.984-05:00Great idea, simpson, let's divide the dem part...Great idea, simpson, let's divide the dem party at the upcoming convention with a candidate that thumbs his nose at Peter Barca!<br /><br />Excellent...<br /><br />That should be a recipe for success!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-60702795358906597972014-06-05T18:14:01.553-05:002014-06-05T18:14:01.553-05:00simpson, your integrity (lack there-of) and credib...simpson, your integrity (lack there-of) and credibility as a progressive blogger are showing.<br /><br />You and your allie blogwhore jake have repeatedly dishonestly stated in this thread that vos is behind story that hulsey would leave party -- BUT HULSEY HIMSELF SAYS IT IS BARCA (who you commonly hold up as an ideal candidate, but he was too chicken to run).<br /><br />Now your misrepresenting the bice story as being about one blogger -- it is not -- it is a call for walker backers to sign the Hulsey nominiation papers.<br /><br />Hulsey is short and scampering around town today to get more.<br /><br />So what percentage of Hulsey nomination sigs are repugs?<br /><br />Are you afraid that your blog will become irrelevant if walker is removed from office?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-35767749478037885092014-06-05T17:49:18.468-05:002014-06-05T17:49:18.468-05:00Mary Burke has got to take away the governorship f...Mary Burke has got to take away the governorship from Walker by showing she would definitely be a better governor. Otherwise Walker wins, unless he is indicted or cops a plea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-15870551068951485902014-06-05T17:36:11.816-05:002014-06-05T17:36:11.816-05:00That could be the single most uninteresting piece ...That could be the single most uninteresting piece bice has ever written. Big deal he signed his papers. I personally respect that democratic process and would sign anyone's papers who asked. It means nothing but you want to help them get on the ballot. <br /><br />It also cracks me up that the people who make fun of Hulsey do not get the irony of then vehemently supporting walker. <br /><br />Finally to all of the dem anon trolls in here, should everyone just vote in lockstep because of the letter after the name or should candidates take personal responsibility and earn people's votes? <br /><br />Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-36086593954894225512014-06-05T17:32:01.558-05:002014-06-05T17:32:01.558-05:00didn't know cog diz was a big fan of this guy:...didn't know cog diz was a big fan of this guy:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/261892901.html" rel="nofollow">Conservative blogger [David Blaska] explains signing Rep. Hulsey nomination papers</a><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-25304011951957811102014-06-05T17:29:36.628-05:002014-06-05T17:29:36.628-05:00brilliant anon -- you and capper can hold your bre...brilliant anon -- you and capper can hold your breath, stay home, and tell everyone else to.<br /><br />thanks for doing your part to send walker back into office so he can finish off the koch brothers agenda.<br /><br />that would be real progressive, wouldn't it -- thanks for undermining the process of change so that you can say, "SEE I TOLD YOU SO" after the november election.<br /><br />We need more people like you to disenfranchise voters and stay home, at least, until after you help walker get re-elected and they finally impose voter ID so many of us won't have to troll the democratic party candidate -- dems just won't be allowed to vote.<br /><br />And folks like you make this possible -- outstanding of you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-75376197393675184162014-06-05T17:25:37.307-05:002014-06-05T17:25:37.307-05:00LOL -- blogwhore and virtually unread daily kos po...LOL -- blogwhore and virtually unread daily kos poster jake thinks he's more important because he hides behind an relatively anonymous handle like Jake formerly of the LP instead of posting as anon!<br /><br />bwah ha ha ha ha ha <br /><br />You and your little blog have so much more credibility because you hide behind handle that brands your essentially anonymous little blog!<br /><br />David Blaska, big walker fan and ultra-conservative blogger that simpson knows about, is promoting the Hulsey candidate -- great idea -- give hulsey a platform at the convention even though he will likely be struck running because he will fall short on sigs.<br /><br />The circle-jerk here is being dishonest when they say that the only source for hulsey switching parties is vos -- vos never directly stated anything.<br /><br />And anon above is right -- it was HULSEY that said Barca was behind it and that is your hero, right, Jake.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-68823770813610867242014-06-05T17:18:38.450-05:002014-06-05T17:18:38.450-05:00Ummm, Hulsey won't be the candidate in Novembe...Ummm, Hulsey won't be the candidate in November and he wasn't even going to be brought back in his own Assembly District, so let him say whatever he'll say this weekend, and he'll fade into the wilderness. Plus, it makes Burke look even more reasonable than she already is.<br /><br /> And to the Anon poster, stop worrying about what the GOP hacks on AM radio wll say, they're paid to lie. The only thing I wish the Dems would do is to be running Burke "intro" ads now, so average people know the inevitable Koch smears coming this Fall are lies.Jake formerly of the LPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15660401299391001751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-92058341696929141362014-06-05T17:10:35.971-05:002014-06-05T17:10:35.971-05:00Happened during the recall??? huh?
You mean do...Happened during the recall??? huh? <br /><br />You mean dont want to be painted as wild eye nut jobs like say voting on secession? Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-7411258164464817552014-06-05T17:07:45.830-05:002014-06-05T17:07:45.830-05:00Nah, Hulsey speaks and that's all the media wi...Nah, Hulsey speaks and that's all the media will cover. The DPW is doing the right thing. Whatever else, Democrats must not get painted as wild-eyed nut jobs as happened during the recall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-51236536041903072412014-06-05T16:56:00.943-05:002014-06-05T16:56:00.943-05:00Mary Burke is playing not to lose, rather than pla...Mary Burke is playing not to lose, rather than playing to win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-45955794651620149212014-06-05T16:25:20.182-05:002014-06-05T16:25:20.182-05:00I suppose it's not surprising that the trolls ...I suppose it's not surprising that the trolls are showing up here right before the DPW convention. They are easy to see through.<br />I got involved with politics by volunteering to canvass for the county DPW in 2012. I logged hundreds of miles going door-to-door, finding out about what the locals thought. Few knew about our local candidates, while many knew about the national. It led me to think that our state DPW takes its directions from the national party. This, I think, is based on where the money comes from to promote our candidates.<br />Mike Tate is wrong to equate Burke's campaign with Baldwin's. They are both women, no kidding. Mike, it's insulting to view your constituents as thinking that all they care about is the brand name, as if we had to choose between Crest and Colgate.<br />Tammy Baldwin was very up front about what she stood for. I believe in progressive Democratic ideas and policies, which Baldwin expressed. She made the choice clear between voting for her or Tommy Thompson. Burke doesn't say much, other than she's not Scott Walker. <br />As a progressive, I think that centrist, Democratic Leadership Coucil ideas throw many Democrats by the wayside, hardly a plan for Democratic success.<br />Brett Hulsey has at least been able to express some political ideas that traditional Democrats stand for, so let him speak. I don't think he's a viable candidate, though, due to his personal off-the-field baggage exploits.<br />We in Wisconsin suffer from the vast disparity of the 1% versus the 99. Being Tea Party Lite is not going to attract many votes from within the 99.<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-74905997602881674772014-06-05T16:15:52.961-05:002014-06-05T16:15:52.961-05:00Thats not insider info, thats from reading the pap...Thats not insider info, thats from reading the papers. The republican model will not work on the dem side, no matter how many times you try it. <br /><br />Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-79763713662334436072014-06-05T16:00:18.439-05:002014-06-05T16:00:18.439-05:00hulsey didn't actually have enough signatures ...hulsey didn't actually have enough signatures -- he's been pedalin' his @ss off around town trying to get more the past 2 days.<br /><br />He isn't entitled to a spot if, in-fact, he does not have enough signatures that GAB will recognize and it would be irresponsible for dem party to feature him as a speaker (as a candidate) if he may not qualify for the ballot.<br /><br />It was his choice to let this go to the last minute and to have such a small margin when we all know that some were going to be invalidated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-19876054167288172782014-06-05T15:34:27.500-05:002014-06-05T15:34:27.500-05:00You are lying -- you specifically stated that you ...You are lying -- you specifically stated that you had inside information that the dem party has not allowed anyone else to run -- and there is certainly not any public information.<br /><br />You misread story and the post (and now you are deleting when your mistake is pointed out).<br /><br />It is HULSEY himself that is claiming that the whole story about him leaving the causus comes from BARCA (see second link above).<br /><br />And you are mistating -- it is not vos that says Hulsey tried to join caucus -- it is an aide.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-11684782834433377602014-06-05T15:27:06.977-05:002014-06-05T15:27:06.977-05:00Well you misread the story -- nothing came directl...Well you misread the story -- nothing came directly from vos -- an aide, yes; but that's not the point.<br /><br />Your guy HULSEY himself is saying it comes from Barca.<br /><br />Your PS is BS -- you specifically did challenge an comment I posted about the disrepect directed towards Burke here. For some reason, you and capper think that holding your breath and throwing a temper tantrum will help.<br /><br />You directly did state that it was the dem party that kept others out of the race -- and you stated you knew this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-62598691438792975902014-06-05T15:12:50.578-05:002014-06-05T15:12:50.578-05:00Hey, as long as he doesn't start arguing in fa...Hey, as long as he doesn't start arguing in favor of secession... ;-)MadCityVoternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-63040397550114731032014-06-05T15:03:50.999-05:002014-06-05T15:03:50.999-05:00Actually from the way i read the story Barca only ...Actually from the way i read the story Barca only has Vos's word also. Besides I dont care if he did or not, that is not the point. <br /><br />the point is he is a dem, he should be allowed to speak. Its that simple. Mike Tate gave his word, and now it is up to him if he keeps it or not. <br /><br />PS: you can look long and hard for any mention anywhere that I have ever claimed to have inside knowledge. Jeff Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-76884486556410493622014-06-05T14:59:41.496-05:002014-06-05T14:59:41.496-05:00No, barca is saying it too -- and he's your he...No, barca is saying it too -- and he's your hero:<br /><br /><a href="http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/brett-hulsey-democratic-party-appear-ready-to-go-their-separate/article_62978691-b723-52da-b537-9a499d1fbf18.html#ixzz33nRHlsqD" rel="nofollow">Brett Hulsey, Democratic Party appear ready to go their separate ways</a><br /><br />And Hulsey himself is going around saying that it is Barca that is saying this:<br /><br /><a href="http://host.madison.com/news/local/writers/jack_craver/the-latest-on-brett-hulsey-his-convertible-the-republican-caucus/article_c5f428a8-21b9-11e3-9667-001a4bcf887a.html" rel="nofollow">Peter Barca is telling that story</a>"," he [Hulsey] says, referring to the Assembly Democratic leader with whom he has had a falling out.<br /><br />For someone that constantly proclaims to have inside knowledge -- you are really uninformed -- but that is by choice, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com