Wednesday, June 6, 2012

My Thoughts on the Recall

First of all %^&*( ....ok thats off my chest.

1. It is sad that we not only rewarded the "divide and conquer" strategy of Scott Walker but we will continue it. We have Scott Walker on video, in numerous places and times, expkaining exactly what his plans were and what he plans to do with our state and to our workers. Of course even to this day he will not ever campaign on his actual strategy but I guess some people believe the commercials over the candidate.

 2. Debates just do not matter. Tom Barrett whipped Scott Walker in both debates handily and it did not move the needle at all. Rebecca Kleefisch is either too scared to debate or the Walker campaign would not let her, but her blatant hiding from the public had no effect on her re-election either.

3. Being outspent 10-1 made a huge difference. If you look at the exit polling, many people based their votes on issues that just were not true.

 4. The democrats had better get their messaging down and quickly. They win the issues in the polls and lose in the ballot box. Who is to blame for that is something that needs to be discussed but it is a problem that the Democratic party has had since I have paid attention to politics.

5. I do not understand how a 50/50 state, with a 50/50 exit poll results in 20 point wins for the republicans.

6. I would really like to know how Alberta Darling, who was interviewed when there was about 30% of the votes in, knew that Scott Walker(who was up 20% at the time) would end up with 53% of the vote which is exactly what he ended up with? Is she Ms. Cleo or did she know something no one else did?

 7. How bad a candidate is Van Wanggaard, that when his cohorts are winning by massive margins he loses?

 8. If you truly think that ACT 10 is "working" you have NOT been in our public schools lately. I challenge each and everyone of you who think it is working to go to your local public school and give them a days worth of volunteering. Call up the principal or your kid's teacher and ask them what you can do. It does not even matter if you have children in the district do it anyway, since not having kid's in the district did not stop you from forming an opinion on the effectiveness of ACT 10.

 9. If you truly think ACT 10 is working, educate yourself on Michael Brickman and then tell me again that Scott Walker cares about public education.

10. Does anyone really think that Foster Friess, Bob Perry, Dick Devos and Tim Phillips have the best interest of the Wisconsin Citizen in mind and thats why they gave millions?

11. Thank you very much to ALL of the volunteers who put the time and effort into collecting signatures, knocking on doors and getting people to GOTV. Many many new registered voters and people that now pay attention to politics. All things are cyclical, DO NOT GIVE UP and DO NOT GO AWAY!

12. Thank you to Lori Compas. Shame on anyone in that district that voted for Scott Fitzgerald! 

13. If you condemned the republicans for running fake democrats in the election to force a primary, feel free to come in here and complain about the cost of the recall elections. if you did not then please be quiet, your hypocrisy is showing.

14. If you are a "tea party" member trying to tell me that you are part of a grassroots movement to be more like "our Founders", and did not condemn the secrecy agreements, then please stop yourself. Nothing that has been done in the last 16 months could have been further from the Founder's original intention for our great country than to have one party sign secrecy agreements and spend millions of taxpayer dollars to write the most bitter partisan redistricting they could get away with.

15. STOP calling them "conservatives" what exactly are they conserving? Let me offer up some suggestions. Righties, right wing, republicans, extreme right, "friends" from across the aisle, red's, etc...

16. I am very proud to have stood beside, walked with and met so many great progressives in this state! Keep up the fight!

17. My Village went overwhelmingly in support of Barrett/Mitchell!  YEAH US!

18. 38% of union households voted for Walker??? Can someone please explain THAT mindset? How many chickens would vote for Colonel Sanders?

19. While I did not like some of the things that he did in the primary, I think Tom Barrett ran a pretty good campaign against Scott Walker. It was a short campaign so it would have been helpful had he started sooner. I would have also liked a stronger emphasis on returning collective bargaining rights and overturning ACT 10. We did not have to attempt to balance the budget on the backs of the working class and we do not need to in the future.

20. I look very much forward to seeing where the "John Doe" investigation takes us.

21. The wind in politics can change in a day. We have another big election in November, we can keep control of the Senate(proud to call Mark Miller Senate Majority Leader) and we can knock off some more of the assembly. We also must deliver Wisconsin for Barack Obama!

25 comments:

  1. Do you have a link to anything about Alberta Darling supposedly predicting Walker's exact percentage? I can't find anything about that anywhere else and I'd like to see it.

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  2. It was on ABC in Madison, they interviewed her from Walker campaign hq's i will try and find it but not sure if they put it up or not....

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  3. I am fairly convinced that there is selection bias in the exit polling

    The exit pollsters are almost uniformly young college students and I think that older voters have a higher refusal rate than younger ones do when asked to participate

    This is just my theory without any real evidence, but I have participated in exit polls after voting numerous times and think that this is the most likely cause

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  4. Capper, I hope you no longer feel so alone in your views on Walker. There's a large number of us now who understand his character since we've been paying attention and getting the facts from you on his many years of destruction in Milwaukee County. He is certainly not the boy scout he appears to be. Thanks so much for sounding the alarm on this very irresponsible and dangerous man. We get it now.

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  5. I saw this comment posted on The Huffington Post today under an article on Walker's win. 38% of union households voted for Walker? If freakin union members don't get it, why should the average Fox News watching Wisconsinite? Sorry, these aren't "union" members, they are the scabs of the world. The people in this state that fought and died for their IAM rights are rolling in their graves.

    "I have had to take concessions in the past number of years being an IAM union member. Why shouldnt others have to do the same?
    Go Walker you have union people behind you and many are in my shop here at Astenjohnson in Appleton!!"

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    1. This makes sense, in a state where we are as close to 50/50 D/R I would think at least that many republicans were forced to join the union even if they disagree with the politics. Even more so, look at all the people opting out of the unions now that dues aren't automatically taken.

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    2. Let me take out 20% of your income and then tell the companies that you no longer patronize because you can't afford it that the reason is you don't like them.

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    3. You know, eventually when you are really sick of government taking more money every time they see fit you could join the tea party movement. Kind like a union for taxpayers.

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    4. IMBR yes except the tea party doesnt stand for that. Not when you have people like big spending Paul ryan speaking at your well funded rallies and oppose President Obama despite the fact that taxes are at the lowest rate in the last 50 years.

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    5. So why do you support Walker. He raised taxes and fees and gave it to his friends. It's like he stole your lunch money.

      Oh, wait, it's just more right wing hypocrisy.

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    6. Jeff, you do realize that Ryans platform is fiscal responsibility and Obamas is of quantitative easing and stimulus spending right?
      Capper, even if Walker raised taxes it is far from what The unions had in mind to try to force Barrett to do. I know your not going to tell me Barrett had tax cuts in mind. How long before we see the end of collective bargaining in Illinois?

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    7. Again, you're wrong. Barrett would have just used the money that Walker was going to give to his wealthy supporters.

      And as for Ryan, even the guy who came up with the plan said it wouldn't work.

      Double fail for you!

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    8. I do understand the "platforms" and supposed platforms very well. I also have been paying attention.

      The "fiscally conservative" Paul ryan was a champion of Medicare part D, both wars being funded no questions asked and off the books and the wall St bailout. Not only was he a champion of the wall st bailout, he was the most ardent supporter of the original Hank Paulsen bailout that he wrote on the back of a napkin that basically said that Paulsen can give wall st as much money as needed and no one can ever ask him a question about where it went or what happened to it....Ryans record is about as far from fiscally conservative as you can get.

      As for Stimulus spending Almost every economist that doesnt work for Heritage, that thinks the only problem with the stimulus is that it was too small......

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    9. Capper, enjoy. You need relaxing time to get your thoughts straight. Debate Ryans plan all you like, at least he has a plan. The president cant even get his own party to vote for his budgets. And as far as it not working, that's what you said about Walkers budget. I read today our friends to the south wish they had Walker for governor now.http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0607-20120607,0,7757313.column

      Jeff, your right, those are pretty non fiscally conservative policies. I would have thought you would like that side of him, based on your love of Obama. Your problem is that he is pretty sharp, and will explain himself at every opportunity. He will be around for a long time.

      You mean every liberal economist I assume. I've heard Paul Krugman talk about stimulus, stimulus should end up being a wash, with the revenue generated offsetting the investments into the economy. I contend that the administration invested to much of the stimulus to do things like green energy, bailout GM and to a lesser extent Chrysler, and prop up local budgets. Things that never really generated enough new jobs or economic activity. Apparently we learned the hard way how not to spend stimulus money, according to the results. I got a new drainage pipe installed and landscaped in my front yard. Stimulus funds according to the village manager. Of course I never asked for it, it seemed the village couldn't find enough productive ways to spend that money.
      Ohh....Before you look at me like I profited from all this, Tom Barretts sewerage district that he ran for office on fixing also filled my basement with sewage as well. That's a hard broken promise for me to forget. I'll bet none of my neighbors voted for him for that reason alone.

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  6. BREAKING: REPUBLICANS SPEND $50M BUT LOSE SENATE

    Sorry for all the caps but I couldn't help myself.

    Meanwhile, even though the phrase "worker's rights" wasn't uttered during the campaign, unions are somehow responsible for the loss. Is that just a little bit of Democratic party centrist spin there?

    I'm sorry to say it, but part of me secretly hopes the pro Walker union slackards get the right to work state they deserve. I just don't want to hear them bitching about pay cuts and loss of health benefits, but they will and they'll probably find some way to blame it on the Blacks, the Indians or Gays. At least they'll have their guns to keep them warm but their slave mentality to keep them docile.

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  7. Imustbe, I know many public employees who make $12 to $15 dollars an hour. They've had their wages frozen for three years and now with the additional money coming out of their paychecks, many are visiting food pantries and receiving food stamps. They don't pay the dues because they need every cent, not because they don't want to be in a union. This was Walker's plan all along and it worked.

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  8. "5. I do not understand how a 50/50 state, with a 50/50 exit poll results in 20 point wins for the republicans. 6. I would really like to know how Alberta Darling, who was interviewed when there was about 30% of the votes in, knew that Scott Walker(who was up 20% at the time) would end up with 53% of the vote which is exactly what he ended up with? Is she Ms. Cleo or did she know something no one else did?"

    Can anybody say "Diebols?" I wondered about the Diebold effect all along, even as the progressive energy pointed to the opposite result we saw yesterday. My worst fears realized.

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    1. It reminded me of this from a drunk peter king:

      http://youtu.be/cEgBCkiV4DM

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  9. Per item #6:
    Video can be purchased from Wisconsin Media Services. www.wismedia.tv
    262-548-4242

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  10. The unions are dead and the only one responsible for that are the unions..... Nice job idiots

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    1. Yes the nerve of the working class for thinking they should be able to support a family and have healthcare for all of their hard work!

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    2. We are? Is that why the Milwaukee Area Labor Council was packed last night?

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  11. Van Wangaard and Walker ran the same in the Senate district. Not all of Racine County is in the district.

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  12. 1. I spend many days in my child's public school. He has 18 kids in his class. No class size problems. They also were able to get Ipads for each teacher and some more to share throughout the school. I love my kids school, I can honestly say Act 10 has done nothing to deter good learning. Our district quietly negotiated concessions and replaced every single position in the district last year. Not one teacher laid off.

    2. Private unions aren't what they are cracked up to be. Everything unions fought for back in the day are law now. My husband just left his union for a lower paying STEADY job. He has been laid on and off for over 3 yrs. You see, the carpenter's union thought it would be a great idea to keep raising benefits and wages and now they are over priced when they they bid for jobs. Contractors want the guys to take a pay cut to get back on track, the union leaders want to strike. There are hundreds of carpenters on the "out of work" list in Milwaukee, Racine, Kenosha areas. Most would give up the hourly wage to work 52 weeks a year. My husband would take the pay cut in a heart beat if it guaranteed him steady work. I should also mention he gets NO vacation time, no paid holidays, no sick time and a contractor HAS to pay his health insurance benefits, the union member can't get that $$ back even if he choses not take the insurance. Tell me again why he should have stayed in the union?

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    1. What a great school i would like to know more since that model is the exact opposite of about 98% of the rest of the schools in this state after ACT 10

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